Abramowitz: NYCFC sign Athletic Bilbao’s Iraola, Man City defender Angelino

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New York City FC are about to reinforce their defensive unit in a major way.

According to New York City FC play-by-play man and ESPN Deportes announcer Roberto Abramowitz, NYCFC is set to sign Athletic Bilbao’s Andoni Iraola and 18-year-old Manchester City youth prospect, Angelino (José Ángel Tasande).

Iraola, 32, is a 6′ tall right back and veteran of Athletic Bilbao, where he registered 510 appearances since 2003. He spent two seasons prior to that with Athletic’s B-side. Rumored to be leaving the club as early as this past April, he looks all but set to take on duties with NYCFC. He has consistently averaged over 30 appearances per season except for 2015, where he registered 22. In 13 years in La Liga, Iraola has earned 33 goals. He has also been capped by the Spanish National Team seven times.

A natural right fullback, Iraola has also featured as a right midfielder throughout his career.

Joining Iraola is Manchester City Youth product Angelino. A fellow Spaniard, Angelino is a current product of the Manchester City U-21 side. He is a natural left fullback, but can also play on the left midfield and in a more advanced, attacking role. He joined the youth academy in 2013 by way of Deportivo de La Coruna. In 20 U-21 Premier League appearances, he has managed four goals and two assists.

Flexibility is key in MLS players, especially when regarding the stringent roster rules that dominate the league’s player acquisition model. Both Iraola and Angelino certainly bring that. With NYCFC missing a true impact player on either of their defensive and offensive wings, Iraola and Angelino bring in fresh blood that will work to compete with the current flank options such as Thomas McNamara, Jeb Brovsky, Josh Williams, Sebastian Velasquez and Ned Grabavoy.

Iraola will likely be signed as a non-DP player while Angelino may come on board on a loan, much like fellow City youth product, Shay Facey. EoS was unable to confirm the arrival of either player at the time of this report.

 

  • JP

    Farm Team

    • Gazza

      Crybaby

    • Larry’s A Simpleton

      minor league operation soon to be relocating to connecticut. since you fanboys have such a connection to stover/obrien why dont you ask them about cosblos reps in connecticut over the weekend scoping out stadiums.

      yup. they were checking out sites in New Haven, Hartford and new britain. just ask them. looks like dillon stadium gets a new tenant next year and hofstra lacrosse gets their field all to themselves.

  • Larry’s slow left arm is a simpleton

    Yes, but they are my Farm Team!

    We are NYC’s Farm team!

    Ans we arte going to win MLS Cup and I am going to run on the field naked with Nick Chavez and Chance Michaels!

    We don’t need no stinkin dalarly cap!

    Wr have Uncle Don Gatber making special rules for us!

    Maked pitch invasion, baby!

    • Larry’s slow left arm is a simpleton

      I mean “NAKED pitch invasion!”

      I’m so excited I can’t even type!!!

      • LOL

        Why do Cosmos fanboys like to whine?

    • Mike

      At least we are not a minor league team. Angelino has more talent in his pinkie than anyone in that glorified beer league your team plays in.

      • Larry’s slow left arm is a simpleton

        You tell ’em. Baby! We’ve got Brovsky! Grabavoy! Hernandez! We’re gonna crush the Cosmos! And I’m gonna dance on their field and moon the crowd. And I’ve got a “D” tatooed on my left cheek and and “N” on my right and after, NYCFC wins, I’m gonna bend over and my butt will say “DON,” the true Lord of US Soccer. He will crush the NASL and turn the players over to the Sheik who will wipe out the dissidents! MLS RULES, baby!

        • DivinityHope

          You do know the Cosmos are by Suadi’s Right?And Brovsky, Grabavoy &Hernandez are all better, then a good majority of the players on the Cosmos.Which why they are in the MLS, not the NASL that clubs went 0-7 againt the USL. However dont forget to add Poku,Mix, Villa, Mcnamara……ex to that list.

          • Larry’s Left Arm Is a Simpleton and has Dark Desires

            You tell ’em, girlfriend!

            Here’s half a dozen reasons why NYCFC is better than the Cosmos:

            1) They play in MLS which is the greatest league in the world.

            2) Sure the Cosmos are owned by rich Saudis, but OUR Saudi’s are RICH AND POWERFUL AND…they stamp out dissidents! And THAT’S what NYCFC will do! We will stamp out NY area fans who don’t root for NYCFC!

            3) We have Brovsky & the Cosmos don’t! Have you SEEN that mustache!?! It is brilliant & it reflects our Bushwick (I mean EAST WILLIAMSBURG fan base. He is we and we are he and we is he and we are all together!

            4) We have HISTORY! Man City began a really long time ago!

            5) The head of the 3rd rail is a Milwaukee guy! You don’t get more NYC than that!

            6) We have fans like you, sugar lips!

            • DivinityHope

              Here’s half a dozen reasons why NYCFC is better than the Cosmos:
              1) Who sais MLS was the greatest league in the world. It is however way better then the NASL, which alcks in quality comapred to the USL.
              2) The Cosmos are owned by rich Saudis, who support beheadings. But please, be free to tell me about NYFC majority owners horrible acts, just dont be a hypocrite about the dirty laundry in your owners closet. And why would NYCFC care about stamping out NY area fans, who don’t root for NYCFC? They dont need to, playing in a minor league thats care that problem for them. The Cosmos had a head start, yet have less fans. It has nothing to with NYCFC, if fans doesnt want to watch the circus show.
              3) Brovsky has at least been a first division player for a while. Majority of the Cosmos have only played at the lower divisions Players like Lucky Mkosana, can start for the Cosmos, yet arent MLS quality.
              4) If call being seen as one of the reasons the original NASL folded history, then I guess you have that in abundance. Your team have so much history, they struggle to get 5k in the building on a regular basis.
              5) And whos cares if the head of the 3rd rail is a Milwaukee guy? Isnt that what NYCis about, brining a bunch of people from all over together?
              6) You are not funny.

              • Larry’s Left Arm Is a Simpleton and has Dark Desires

                I agree with you!

                You are Divine:

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_(performer)

                Gimme a B
                Gimme an R

                Gimme a OVSKY!

                GIVE ME BROVSKY!!!!!!!!!

                • DivinityHope

                  Is this suppose to be funny? I think its great you know who Harris Glenn Milstead is. I think its great, your favorite singer is a Drag Queen. Now what does Harris Glenn Milstead, have to do with this conversation? If you like drag queens, thats great, enjoy your life.I just fail to see why Harris Glenn Milstead was even mention. Except she/he uses the name Divine, which has nothing to with the topic we were talking about. But I get it, you are one of those people who think their funny, when in reality their not. Look if you want to be funny,become or be with a drag queen, I wish you the best. However when it comes to NYCFC, dont compare a real team, with a side show.

                  • The Realist

                    Whose really the side show here?

            • DivinityHope

              Here’s half a dozen reasons why NYCFC is better than the Cosmos:
              1) Who said MLS was the greatest league in the world. It is however way better then the NASL, which laks in quality compared to the USL.
              2) The Cosmos are owned by rich Saudis, who support beheadings. But please, be free to tell me about NYFC majority owners horrible acts, just dont be a hypocrite about the dirty laundry in your owners closet. And why would NYCFC care about stamping out NY area fans, who don’t root for NYCFC? They dont need to, playing in a minor league takes care that problem for them. The Cosmos had a head start, yet have less fans. It has nothing to with NYCFC, if fans dont want to support a the circus act.
              3) Brovsky has at least been a first division player for a while. Majority of the Cosmos have only played at the lower divisions. Players like Lucky Mkosana, can start for the Cosmos, yet arent MLS quality.
              4) If you call being seen as one of the reasons the original NASL folded history, then I guess you have that in abundance. Your team have so much history, they struggle to get 5k in the building on a regular basis.
              5) And whos cares if the head of the 3rd rail is a Milwaukee guy? Isnt that what NYC is about, bringing a bunch of people from all over together?
              6) You are not funny.

              • DivinityHope

                *lacks, not laks.

      • Anonymous

        We will see after Wednesday.

        • John

          Wednesday won’t make a difference after the game the Cosmos will still be in the NASL with no where to go.

          Cosmos are stuck in the second division no matter whether they win or lose on wednesday and that is the sad part of the cosmos.

      • Larry’s A Simpleton

        they whine because they’re bitter. they cant stand the fact that nycfc is so popular and own nyc while they are totally ignored by fans and media alike.

        but they’ll feel all better next year when the hartford cosblos have a town all to themselves.

        lol the ny liberty got more people in the garden saturday night than the f.cosmos got at shuart stadium!

        • Larry’s Left Arm Is a Simpleton and has Dark Desires

          I WHINE BECAUSE MY ASS HURTS FROM THE TATTOO I GOT OF THE DON ON MY CHEEKS!

  • I heard through the grapevine that RB is on the verge of signing the defensive tandem of Sir Charles Barkley and Alexi Lalas on special dispensation by his highness Garber pursuant to a little known loophole called falsus in uno,falsus in omnibus

    • Smith

      We are awaiting the triumphant return of Diego Sonora.

  • Diablo

    Come on David Carlin . Why don’t you grow some balls and use your real name? Or is that your King Aurther role playing name? Whatta douchebag!

  • Larry’s Left Arm Is a Simpleton and has Dark Desires

    BROVSKY F#CKIN’ MANIA IS SWEEPING THE NATION, MOTHERF#JKERS!

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  • DanGerman

    Last year the Cosmos brought in on loan Mwanga, Lade and Ockford from MLS teams, So does that make them an MLS farm team? This year the 2nd leading goal scorer is from the Phil. Union (Fernandes) also on loan, so now the Cosmos are the farm team to the Union? No, just means they are trying to get better and do it on a fiscally sound path like every team in the world.

  • OpenCupFan

    hey listen to me, I’m Dan German, super Cosmos fan. My proof is that I constantly defend MLS and attack the Cosmos at every opportunity! That’s me! With fans like me, who needs enemies? Also, I’m very credible, my resume includes the inability to buy tickets to a Cosmos game online! Yeah, so listen to me, I got it all figured out – except, don’t ask me how to use the Internet, too complicated.
    .
    I was rooting for the Cubans last week!

    • Larry’s A Simpleton

      what do you know? youre the idiot from big soccer who knew liga mx was begging the cosblos to join their league because liga mx is foaming at the mouth to get into that lucrative new york market.

      • OpenCupFan

        Whoa whoa, plenty of dumb stuff said by me everywhere, that’s for sure. But how do you know what it is said all over the Internet?
        .
        Bot database?
        Is that where you get instructions from? How do you get your orders? Dam it, people want to know who is pulling your angry angry strings.
        .
        Btw – don’t disparage Mexican teams, your league can’t even beat them with a month to prepare.
        #bushleague

    • DanGerman

      Again, I’m not blasting the Cosmos at all. I’m just saying its hypocritical to say that NYCFC is a farm team by taking players on loan from Man City when the Cosmos do it as well.

      • OpenCupFan

        Hypocrisy?
        .
        – MannCityLite announces player signing and that guy plays for ManCityUK – Cosmos don’t lie about their signings, that’s something independent clubs don’t have to do.
        .
        Attacking ManCityJr for being a minor league team isn’t an attack, it is just the truth, embrace it.
        .
        If you aren’t allowed to sign your own players, then what are you?
        #bushleague

        • DanGerman

          Yes the Cosmos announced that Fernandes came from the Union and in this very post they mentioned that NYCFC is also loaning a player from Man City, so what’s your point? Also isn’t the NASL the league that allowed one team to trade a player for hotel rooms and travel money? Nothing screams top league than that right? Let’s talk about bushleague because right now NASL has more evidence of it then MLS.

          • Anthony

            You are conflating two different motives. The Cosmos are lookign for loans to fill hole sintheir line up, a majority of clubs in the world do this. NYCFC has the ability to do this as well albeighit more constricted due to MLS signing rules.

            The difference is the Cosmos are not purposefully set up to channel players from a parent owner/club to act as a developmental platform for said club. When people call you a farm team, its because that is exactly what they are, they are a team owned by Man City, subservient to the needs of Man City and there to increase the development of talent for Man City as well as pass off huge operating costs in MAnchester to satellite clubs so they can evade UEFA FFP rules.

            That is who your franchise is. There is no denying it. Every time a NYCFC fan tries to make an excuse otherwise its just as sad and naive as when a Red Bull fan pretends that being Red Bull is just a”name”.

            The Cosmos are in NASL, the D2 league and they are a damn good club. Maybe someday conditions will exist and they can join MLS. On Wednesday you will see up close and personal just how “minor league” the Cosmos really are. REd Bull discovered that last year, now its your turn.

      • you obviously don’t understand soccer. Hell, you don’t seem to have a grip on reality. When a team takes a player on loan, it is an arm’s length transaction. Both teams derive something positive from the transaction or it doesn’t happen. NYCFC exists in furtherance of the parent club, MCFC. That’s why Frank Lampard didn’t start when you were told when he starts. When they take players on loan from man city, there is real potential for confict of interest.

        That you NYCFC fans don’t see that and don’t worry about it tells you a lot about the kind of fans you really are.

  • Larry’s A Simpleton

    LOL! f.cosmos fans are so bitter. minor league team, minor league management, minor league fans! another day goes by is another day the cosmos come closer to folding.

    you guys must cry yourself to sleep everynight seeing those HUGE crowds at yankee stadium and all the plublicity NYCFC gets while the cosblos are withering away.

    hey, is it true that after the nassau county globetrotters defeated cuba they’re demanding a spot in the concacaf world cup qualifiers? you know, because we’re the cosblos the most famous team in north america and we deserve it because we have history and are popular in sweden!!!

    • Larry’s Left Arm Is a Simpleton and has Dark Desires

      I HAVE A LIFE SIZE FLUFF TOY OF NED GRABAVOY IN MY CLOSET!

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  • I thought the point of sports was winning. That’s what the Cosmos do. NYCFC and Red Bull, well you’re doing something, just not winning soccer games. I suppose when your team’s goal is the marketing of something other than the soccer team, (Soda and Manchester), winning isn’t all that important. And I guess that’s why you constantly talk about “publicity”, “attendance”, and “stadiums”, because you can’t talk about what we can talk about, winning soccer games for the fans our our glorious team.

    • OpenCupFan

      They talk about everything but the product on the field. Can’t be a good sign when you’d rather keep track of the goings on in the stands instead of the field.

    • DivinityHope

      Is winning in a minor league,winning? lol.

    • Of course its to win. NYCFC is bringing in 5 to 6 new players in an effort to improve the squad. But winning it all in the NASL isn’t a big deal to major market teams because it is seen as less than. Does anyone care if NYU wins the D 3 championship in basketball? No because everyone wants St. Johns, Manhattan, or any of the other D1 schools in the city to win.

      • Anthony

        Dan, newsflash..i’ve followed soccer in this country for decades so let me be the first to dispel you of the notion that canyon other than a small niche market of people cares or knows who won MLS Cup. Don’t beleive me, walk ask random people on the street. To that same vein no one cares about who won NASL either. You are just splitting hairs for no other reason that to try and make some absurd “burn” on the internet.

        Winning NASL as an NASL team is an accomplishment, same as winning any other league. An in terms of domestic soccer in the USA, MLS isnt even in the same stratosphere as the other pro sports let alone NCAA sports.

        • DivinityHope

          The NASL is a minor league, do you care who wins the NBA-D league championship?

          • Why should anyone care about who wins MLS when there’s the premier league and la liga?

            • DanGerman

              Because as an American you want to support your top league, are you not a good american? :-)

              • OpenCupFan

                No pro/rel, no top league. Are you a communist?
                .
                Americans support competition.

                • DanGerman

                  No but the communist DID have pro\reg by the way.

                  • OpenCupFan

                    Yes, the communists also had a constitution that guaranteed everyone equality and civil rights.
                    .
                    Without pro/rel, division designations mean nothing.

                    • slowleftarm

                      Yeah AAA is just as good as the Majors because there’s no pro/rel in baseball. Makes sense.

            • DivinityHope

              Check MLS facebook likes vs NASL facebook likes, that should tell you something.

              • Smith

                Bon Jovi sold more LPs than the Clash or John Coltrane; doesn’t mean they were better, just more popular.

                • Larry’s Left Arm Is a Simpleton and has Dark Desires

                  EFF YOU! You are a luddite! This is the 21st century! The only thing that counts is social media! Kim Kardashian has more followers than Jesus, Vishnu, Mohammed, Moses, the Bahaullah and James Brown combined! Are you telling me she’s not better AND more important than all those people! BOLDERDASH AND POPPYCOCK!

                  MLS EFFEN RULES! I have #ILOVEMULTI-TIEREDPLAYOFFS and #DONGARBERISHOT

                  Come follow me!

                  Give me Don or Give Death!

    • slowleftarm

      RBNY won the supporters shield just two years ago. Winning in the minor leagues is a lot easier though.

      • OpenCupFan

        MLS = Minor League

        • slowleftarm

          So what is NASL then? Here’s a quote from an NASL President/GM: “Right now, I don’t think any neutral party or unbiased party would say we’re first division.”

    • Ulrich

      OK, so your treatise on this is that winning is all that matters and level of competition be damned?

      When I run road races, I can either race the “local” races with far less participants and quality of competitor which gives me a real possibility to win my age division and possibly even be in contention for the overall top spots, or I can run larger races where I’m nowhere near contention for an accolade but there’s a better chance to produce a faster time while being pushed by better competition. This is exactly the analogy that comes to mind with NASL versus MLS.

      I’m not saying that MLS top to bottom is better than every team in the NASL, but the quality of play as a whole is far superior to the NASL’s league play. There’s maybe 1-3 teams from the NASL that could compete in MLS for an entire season, and its highly doubtful that any would finish at the top of MLS when having to play a 34 game season compared to the NASL’s 10 game mini season.

      The NASL awards Silverware to the winner of both 10-game mini/split seasons – these min-seasons are without home & away matches (which seems ludicrous to any soccer purist, which are what Cosmos fans are supposed to be). In essence, it’s a trumped up way to manufacture additional trophies. And as I said in another thread, congratulations are in order for winning the trophy the other night.

      But while winning is great and an ego boost, if the competition is lacking like it is in the NASL (teams 4-11 are pretty bad), why prance around like a peacock with your feathers radiating???

  • Dan V.

    Just watched ESPN FC recap of the Cosmos Jacksonville game, yes a video recap done by espn. NASL will continue to grow and that I’m sure really frightens you Man city Light fanboys. Can’t wait for the excuses to come out after Wednesday night.

    • You realize ESPN pays for the right to show MLS games. The NASL PAYS ESPN for the right to be shown on espn3. Kinda a big difference.

      • Anthony

        You realize MLS paid ESPN and ABC for YEARS to air one game a week. It took MLS well over 10 years to earn actual rights fees for their product and only after SUM packaged USMNT games in and WC english language rights. Seriously just stop, you have no clue about what you are talking.

        • slowleftarm

          Right, so now MLS makes $90m a year from TV rights while NASL pays ESPN to show its games online. Which is fine except that Hempstead fanboys then pretend NASL is as good as MLS when in reality NASL just went 0-7 against the USL.

          • OpenCupFan

            How do you know NASL pays espn3? Where is the source? Might be true, don’t know, but would like to see the source.

            • DanGerman

              When they announced the “Partnership” with ESPN, they made NO mention of any money going to the league for that. If ESPN had paid the NASL a $1 they would have announced that ESPN is paying the league for an “Undisclosed” amount to everyone and anyone as a sign of the leagues growth but that’s not what we got. MLS had a similar “partnership” before they started to receive money.

              • OpenCupFan

                So you have no source for your assertion. Just a guess on your part?
                .
                Gotcha, you really have no idea. When you get a source, please forward it.

                • Better source then your “MLS was begging Cosmos fans to root for NYCFC” comment. I used the NASL press release look it up.

        • DanGerman

          You have to crawl before you walk, when MLS was paying ESPN they didn’t have ESPN3 yet. The league now makes money on the deal.

      • OpenCupFan

        What is your support for this? What is your source?
        .
        Also, Do you have the numbers on the Cosmos – Cuba game? Wonder how that did versus all MLS games this year?

  • Damn, dangerman just keeps getting schooled over and over again but he comes back for more. no wonder why he stays anonymous.

    • DanGerman

      Where in that exchange did I get schooled? I mentioned that the NASL pays for the right to be on ESPN3, which is true and the mention that MLS now gets PAID for that same honor. Which is also true. So I don’t see how I got “Schooled”.

      • DanGerman

        Please don’t let reality have any effect on your decision making, it has done so before.

        • slowleftarm

          Where Leo went to law school, that’s how people got “schooled”

          • hey, at least I had to leave my parent’s basement to attend school, that’s already a bigger accomplishment than you have ever realized I’m betting.

  • OpenCupFan

    MLS is bush league
    1 – traded Landon Donivan to A bigger market for nothing – ZERO. Great way to maintain your league integrity.
    2 – gave Montreal one month to prepare for CCL Championship game.
    3 – during CCL Championship the announcers discussed the Impacts goal keeper repeatedly during the game, but never once mentioned the NASL. At one point, the announcer mentioned how whole resume, but stopped at mentioning his NASL team – guy was signed from NASL two days before, but completely ignored mentioning NASL over and over.
    4 – begged Cosmos supporters to support ManCityLite. Begged. Begged. Begged.
    Writing about MLS bush leaguery is tiring. The list is endlessssssssssssssssssssss.
    #bushleague
    5 – oh yeah, guy that traded Donovan got a GM job with same big market team. ZERO integrity in the bush league.
    #bushleague
    6 – oh yeah, Chuck Blazer was man of the year in MLS in 2006. We’re talking negative levels of integrity here.
    #bushleague

    • DanGerman

      The Cosmos fans were begged to support NYCFC!? Why would the league beg fans who have barely supported there own team? I know that the Cosmos sent a crew of people to hand out fliers at the NYCFC home opener to advertise their home opener, which by the way is bush league. But were do you get that the league begged Cosmos fans? The Cosmos need to start begging their own fans because they’re not getting them in any considerable number. I mean NYCFC is averaging 3X what the Cosmos got in the last game so I don’t think they’re hurting fans.

      • We were in fact begged DanGerman, Mark Abbott and garber were ringing us off the hook after we published our open letter.

        Anthony schooled you, you don’t actually know what a loan is soccer is. You are clearly new to the sport, which is fine, welcome in fact, but to come on here and troll the way you do, well then you just embarrass yourself.

        Was the Cuba match just picked up by a few local blogs? Are you sticking to that story?

        • DanGerman

          A loan is a loan is a loan. One club offers to take a player on with the understanding he’ll get minutes and or receive valuable experience. That’s exactly what happened in this case with both the Cosmos and NYCFC. One club loaned MLS players to start and fill out the roster the other loaned players from a Premier league team to provide depth and versatility. So whats the difference? Anthony didn’t school me as a matter a fact he proved me right by stating the league DOES make money on the TV contract. It matters little how that came to be it just matters that the moneys coming into the league.

  • Oh my god, DanGerman, you really have no idea what you’re talking about. “Loans” are different, they are not the same. You don’t see the difference between the Yankees “loaning” a player to their Triple A club and Monaco getting Falcao on loan? Really? A loan is a loan is a loan?

    Look man, honestly, you’re still clearly learning about soccer and life, why don’t you sit back and read what people say for a while and then maybe in a few months, you will have a better idea about what you are talking about. Then maybe you won’t be so afraid to stand by your opinions.

    • DanGerman

      So tell me genius whats the difference? Almost every club in the known world has loaned players to other teams. The fact that this transaction is different then the others is somehow different? NYCFC targeted the two players that they got from Man City they weren’t told to take them same as the Cosmos and they’re MLS loans. Listen I’m sure you’re pretty sore that they get to loan players from a premier league team while your team gets “Bush League” MLS players. Mind you that “bush league” player is your second leading goal scorer after Raul. So what does that say when he can’t even crack an awful Philly team?

      • OpenCupFan

        Your trolling is bush league!
        .
        Cosmos control their players, minor league teams – MLS franchises – don’t control their players.
        .
        You need a programming update.
        .
        Also, the press release doesn’t say what you’re representing. You need a reading comprehension upgrade to your bot programming.
        .
        You’re reading comprehension is bush league, your team is bush league, you’re league is definitely bush league.
        .
        MLS botting is bush league.

        • Alright there cowboy calm down you’re making no sense now. Try not to write anger you’ll come across easier.

          • OpenCupFan

            I’m not angry at all. The issue is just that your reading comprehension is inadequate to facilitate a conversation.
            .
            You go online representing to be some cool headed thinker explaining the short comings of the Cosmos and the NASL, but you lose all credibility because you blindly read from a list that refuses to acknowledge any of the realities/shortcomings of the league/team you laud.
            .
            Most all of us here started as MLS fans, we didn’t choose to be Cosmos fans without thought. But you patently refuse to accept any of our reasons instead of trying to understand them. Our reasons might not be enough to sway you, that’s fine, but your refusal to even comprehend our reasons makes discussing anything with you – or any other bot that blindly follows a scrip – uninteresting. Also, it should be noted there are as many different reasons for walking away from MLS nonsense as there are people doing it.
            .
            Ex1 – MLS single entity is an inherent conflict of interest – just for example take the Landon Donovan trade. If that doesn’t bother you, then fine. But if you don’t understand the conflict of interest present then you’re missing a large part of what your league is about.
            .
            Ex2 – Another example is ManCityLite is a minor league team of ManCity. If you claim to sign a player, then it is revealed that he never actually signed with you, but signed with the parent organization, that means you – as an organization – don’t have final say regarding your players. That makes you a minor league team vis a vis the parent organization, or if it makes you feel better then you can call it a developmental affiliate or something like it. Point is, you don’t control your players. It’s ok if you don’t have a problem with this – if you think having a team playing in MLS is more important than the limitation of having a parent organization control your players – that’s fine. But don’t pretend it is something else, anyone watching can see it so you’re just hurting your own credibility. Own it.
            .
            I’m not angry, but how else do you talk to bots?

            • DivinityHope

              Ex1 – “MLS single entity is an inherent conflict of interest”? – Like being owned by Traffic Sports?
              Ex2 – “ManCityLite is a minor league team of ManCity”? How because of one player?lol Man City extended his loan, just like we extended Facey loan. You see it works both ways. That doesnt make NYCFC a farm team. Do you know what a farm team is?
              .
              If you werent angry, you wouldnt be on a NYCFC related article. Instead of worring about NYCFC, how about focuson the Cosmos poor attendence. Or the fact your second best player, is a MLS player,that couldnt even see time for the Union.

              • OpenCupFan

                Christian Araos! Welcome to the posts section!!!!

              • slowleftarm

                Also the NASL player of the month for April (cosmos GK) had a trial with RBNY, who sent him packing. He replaced the former Cosmos GK, who left to join RBNY this season and is now the starting GK…of RBNY II.

                • Smith

                  Of course, the Red Bulls starting left mid is Mike Grella, who failed a Cosmos trial last year so, using your logic, MLS must be terrible.

                  Now, I agree that MLS is generally higher quality. I just think your argument is poor.

                  • OpenCupFan

                    Poor argument on his part is actually an improvement in the quality of his arguments.