NYS Labor Boss urges Cuomo admin to approve Cosmos stadium bid

New Cosmos Stadium

Enough is enough.

That is the message from New York State AFL-CIO President Mario Cilento who penned a letter to the Cuomo administration and the Empire State Development Corporation on August 14th, urging the approval of the New York Cosmos’ stadium bid in Elmont, New York.

“I respectfully request you act as swiftly as possible in approving this project and by doing so, assure the local community and the team itself that New York is committed to the Cosmos,”Cilento wrote to Empire State Development Corporation President, Howard Zemsky.

The letter, provided to POLITICO New York, features Cilento telling Zemsky he speaks “On behalf of 2.5 million working men and women in New York State, and in solidarity with the Long Island Federation of Labor” on the stadium issue, which is nearing it’s three year anniversary this November.

The New York Cosmos submitted for bid a redevelopment package in 2013 which includes a privately financed $400 million project with a 25,000 seat stadium at the heart of the dilapidated Elmont community. Aside from the stadium, the Cosmos plan offers the building of a hotel, a restaurant row, park land for the community and several other capital improvements with the goal of creating a year-round destination between them and the adjacent Belmont Raceway.

Citing the “explosion” of interest in soccer, Cilento urges the ESDC to make a “timely decision” on the matter, preserving “thousands of permanent jobs” for local residents.

This push, of course, follows reports of the Cosmos’ waning hope for the bid approval. The club has publicly stated it has begun to look at development in New York City, Westchester and New Jersey.

Whether Cilento can push the argument further remains to be seen.

 

  • NYCSPORTSPUNK

    Has anyone in the media tried to contact the GOV. to see what the delay is all about. I know NY politics is like watching paint dry when it comes to getting things done, but this is just bizarre.

    • MTF

      Yes, so bizarre. A real conspiracy. This is a very valuable parcel of state property. Cuomo has no need to rush. Heaven help him if he turns away a minor league soccer team (sorry independent, organic, grassroots, granola eating, hipster beloved football club) that draws 3,500 LIJSL players and their moms, dads and little brothers and sisters to 15 matches a year.

      • :O

        You sound a little bitter.. Did we fire you or did we beat your favorite plastic franchise?

        • MTF

          No, my plastic franchise beat your team 4-1.

          • Anonymous

            Then you should support this stadium.
            Do you realize the headache this will create for Sharia FC and their hopes for a stadium?

            • BleedingRed

              I’m with this guy. Give it to the Cosmos so that Sharia FC can’t have it.

              • Hernando Peralta

                But, who owns the Cosmos? ISIS people just plain and simple or not?

      • Scott

        Wow against a soccer specific stadium being built? No matter what league/team, you are a reason why US soccer will struggle to grow.

        • MTFLOR

          No, not against a stadium moron. Just very realistic. The state will not approve a 25,000 seat stadium for a local sports team that hasn’t shown it can average even 5,000 spectators. By the way, Cosmos blew it. MLS has big money behind NYCFC and very strong attendance. Nobody needs the Cosmos. It must be sad for all these obnoxious Cosmos fans to realize that the Cosmos are barely a blip on the U.S. Soccer landscape. How many MLS, NASL and USL clubs draw better than them and their iconic brand?

    • storms

      it took yankee stadium like 10 years to get approved. the yankees are a top 5 most famous sport franchise in the world. the cosmos were founded 5 years ago. so yeah it might take a while

  • CosmosPetke

    Long Island needs this since the Islanders are going to Brooklyn

  • Andrew Bissonette

    I still have no clue why the Cosmos want to build a 25,000 seat stadium. They are never going to come close to filling it. Why don’t you maybe start at 12,000-15,000(something they still probably won’t fill), give it plenty of room to grow if that is needed in the future, and go from there. They legit average less than 1/4 of the attendance they need to get a packed house in the proposed stadium.

    • OpenCupFan

      Speaking of confusing, why do NYers, from the #1 city in U.S., support the minor league affiate of like the 8th city in England? That is some confusing sh*t.
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      #grampard

      • storms

        Manchester is england’s second city by pretty much any metric (**** birmingham.) having lived there for 3 years I can also say it’s the best

        • OpenCupFan

          Doesn’t change my point, but I have no hate for Manchester or Man City, only confusion at NYers for supporting the minor league affiliation. Glad you had a good experience there.

          • Anonymous

            You called it the 8th city in England, a point that’s so egregiously wrong it negates anything in the rest of your comment (all of which is BS anyway)

            • OpenCupFan

              Your trolling is egregious.

            • Anonymous

              He meant 8th most attractive

              • slowleftarm

                Yes instead they should support a genuine minor league club – Hempstead Cosmos

                • OpenCupFan

                  not sure how a guy who supports a NJ McWendys is in any position to make fun of LI?
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                  Embrace NJ! Nothing wrong with it. And continue enjoying ManCity’s minor league team getting more publicity than your N. Jersey McWendys. Maybe you should McWendys to get a franchise on Queens blvd if ur not happy?
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                  #greentideworldwide
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                  Support your local independent soccer clubs!

                  • The real Cosmos’ glory days were in NJ. Were they a NY team then, you aspy?

                    Why am I responding to the guy who said “With the Cosmos record against mls competition I think they’d win the Supporters Shield!” in this thread.

                  • MTF

                    Green tide worldwide…is that like an algae bloom?

                  • johnny99

                    Let’s see, the Cosmos are a page in the portfolio of a Middle Eastern sports marketing company – I guess that qualifies as local and independent.

        • Anonymous

          I concur. **** Birmingham indeed.

    • MTF

      If you build it they will come. ;-)

      • Anonymous

        Someone that understands

      • Nat Mac

        Exactly.

    • Alan Smithee

      International friendlies? USNT games? Concerts? A 12,000 seater won’t cut it for those.

      • :O

        This Alan guy knows what he’s talking about.

      • Nat Mac

        Precisely. And it’s privately financed. This stadium is a great idea.

    • slowleftarm

      Andrew, it’s because the club and its fans are desperate to pretend they are a big-time club and “global brand.” Reality hasn’t got in the way thus far so why should it start now?

      • OpenCupFan

        This Slow guy has no clue what he’s talking about.

        • slowleftarm

          So the same squad of MLS rejects that now gets 4k on LI for its minor league games will now get 25k?

          • Anonymous

            If we can beat nycfc we can get the same amount of attendance you can. It they build the stadium fans will come. It’s like what happened in Kansas city they had shitty ass stadium no attendance what so eer but once they build the beautiful stadium they have now it sells out every single game

            • slowleftarm

              It doesn’t work that way. One fluke draw against a first year expansion team resting its best player doesn’t mean they are as good or as popular as an MLS team. SKC is in the top division in this country. If they were playing minor league games there they wouldn’t be getting those crowds. Even Seattle only got 5k before they joined MLS. Being in MLS is what will get crowds at Cosmos games. Too bad that will never happen.

              • OpenCupFan

                Living in the past as usual, typical mls bot – you need a programming update. Maybe even install an app that allows you to stop using arguments based on 1996.
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                You’re right about one thing, Cosmos are not mls crap quality.
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                With the Cosmos record against mls competition I think they’d win the Supporters Shield!
                #bushleaguemls

                • DanGerman

                  A delusional Cosmos fan claiming someone else is living in the past, that is the funniest thing you’ve ever wrote. I mean that is some grade A comedy right there. Nice!

                • johnny99

                  1 win, 1 tie, and 2 losses doesn’t sound like a Supporter’s Shield winning team, but I guess you never know.

      • Nat Mac

        If they can afford to construct the stadium and the entire complex, why not let them? A brand new state of the art stadium will draw fans in.

    • BleedingRed

      My guess is they want to rent it out to the smurfs while they also use it for their home games. It could be profitable for the Cosmos.

      • El CB

        NYFC needs at least a 30K stadium with room to expand to 45k. Regardless of whether you want to ridicule them by calling them names like Sharia FC or Boy City or the Smurfs, reality is that they are probably more popular than RBNY (whom I support) and Cosmos combined. Other than NYCFC, right now RBNY can’t even come close to selling out the 25k capacity RBA- drawing barely over 20k on a Saturday night against Toronto was just another example of the pathetic state of affairs regarding attendance for the oldest and best soccer club in the NY metro area.

        • Nat Mac

          Because Red Bull does no marketing to the locals at all.

          Five years after it opened and RBA is like a well kept secret. I’m still surprised by how many New Yorkers are unaware of it and how easy it is to get to. If Red Bull put some real cash into selling the team, the stadium and how to get there, those extra 5K – 6K seats that go empty from game to game would fill up.

          • trollleftarm

            I doubt it.

            Henry’s gone, and those folks are heading to the Bronx.

            • slowleftarm

              Yeah, RBNY fans will just have to be satisfied with a lofty place in the standings and DPs who aren’t 20 lbs overweight.

  • OpenCupFan

    #greentideworldwide
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    Support your local independent soccer club!

  • DanGerman

    The Cosmos need to stop wasting money on the hope they’ll get Albany to do anything with the site. The Brooklyn borough president said he’ll help the Cosmos put something in Brooklyn and they should take him up on his offer. LI is just a deadzone for sports teams.

  • Out of curiosity, how soon after approval could they break ground, and more or less how long would it take to build all this? Are there going to be more hoops to go through even if it’s approved? It really is too bad they’re three years behind, because I would guess it’s going to be at least three years until this is completed from whenever it gets the ok.

    • Resguard

      Once it is approved, they would just need to purchase the land, make sure all the building permits are in order, and they could break ground within the first month after sale.

      • Ulrich

        You have no idea how long it takes to get a building permit – first month, that’s laughable, especially for a stadium. Maybe an apartment renovation would take a month, but here in NYC it’s averaging about 6-8 weeks.

        • Anonymous

          That’s Long Island not nyc

          • MTF

            It took me 8 weeks for the Town of Hempstead to approve my central a/c! Good luck with Belmont!

  • johns

    which team is a NY area “local independent soccer club!”? –
    not the cosmos, they are run by middle east oil money and criminal traffic sports. So tell me who to support then please?

    maybe you cosmos fans should get some of the “greentideworldwide” people to show up to games, b/c so far it seems there are only 3000 long islanders that are fans – which makes a 25K seat stadium a complete joke!

    • OpenCupFan

      1 – it’s embarrassing if you don’t know about the independent soccer clubs near you.
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      2 – show me any criminal activity associated with the Cosmos. Don’t believe everything you see on mls chat rooms.
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      3 – NJRB had about the same # of season ticket holders as the Cosmoss do now when they got their stadium.
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      4 – Cosmos fans are watching in their living rooms too. How many other American clubs have a nationwide TV deal? Since you sound like a McWendys connoisseur, throw in all the crap mls franchises.
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      #greentideworldwide
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      Support your local independent soccer clubs!
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      #greentideworldwide
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      Support your local independent soccer clubs!

      • 5 Boroughs SC

        Cosmos fans watching from their living rooms? All 25 of them should be so happy.

    • Anonymous

      I thought his “independent soccer club” thing was a reference to MLS’s single-entity stucture.
      The Cosmos, The Italians, etc are independent of all that

      • slowleftarm

        Yes they are independent of any meaningful league.

        • OpenCupFan

          Last pro teams to fold in U.S. were in USL and mls, not NASL. Guess meaningful means league with teams that fold?

          • johnny99

            Unless you count the NASL teams in OKC and Va., which were announced as expansion teams and then “folded” before they had ever played a game.

  • hulk

    This is not an MLS team people …if you built a new stadium and you have no salary cap , then you know what is going to.happen …. Big stars are coming soon to new York and the USA. If you only draw 7,000 per game , now, in a college. Stadium, its not a bad start….

    • slowleftarm

      They don’t draw even 7k now and no big stars are coming to play in the second division. Heck, even Senna thought Cosmos were in MLS when he signed. He said he couldn’t wait for the league matches against RBNY. LOL.

      • OpenCupFan

        Didn’t Cosmos play NJRB and win? Yes they did! Guess Senna was right!
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        Evidently Senna hates Cosmos so much he talked Raul out of coming. Oops, no he didn’t!
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        #greentideworldwide
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        Embrace NJ! Harrison MetroRedStarsBullsFCMcWendys!

        • 2015 US Open Cup 4-1

          Embrace me!

          • OpenCupFan

            Yes, and by the way, your welcome for your best US Open Cup attendance ever.
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            #bushleaguemls

    • MTF

      25,000 people are going to come out to see the Cosmos play the Jacksonville Armada? Please. To see the stadium? No. 25,000 might come out to see them play the Red Bulls or LA Galaxy….that is, first division, major league soccer.

      • CosmosFan

        You forgot the ” ” around “Major”.

  • Pirlo Wonder Pass

    **** Long Island. There are a few thousand fake Cosmos fans and it’s gonna fold pretty soon. Remember when they were gonna take over NY soccer?! Come out and answer for yourselves!

    • OpenCupFan

      Didn’t the Cosmos fold already?
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      Oh no, I’m thinking of multiple mls McWendys that had to fold.

      • Garber Likes Nickelback

        LOLL preaching authenticity when you stole a name, are a franchise yourself, and are owned by some foreign dbags too.

  • Andrew

    This stadium is so that the cosmos can make a bid to the MLS because now if you want to be in the MLS you need to have a stadium. The only exception to this rule was NYCFC. So if a stadium is built the cosmos will probably not be a “minor league” team anymore.

    • OpenCupFan

      Your comment is minor league. It should be relegated in fact.

  • Edwin

    I rather all you non Cosmos fan just say, thank you Cosmos for making Soccer in the U.S possible.

    • OpenCupFan

      Preach!

    • Garber Likes Nickelback

      The question of whether or not the Cosmos set the stage for modern US soccer, or whether they screwed it up for a while? Debatable, honestly.

      What the Cosmos have to do with this pretend outfit? Nothing at all.

    • DanGerman

      Yes lets thank the old Cosmos for building the first soccer specific stadium, wait no that was the Columbus Crew. Lets also thank them for creating a league that still exist to this day, no wait the original NASL folded in the middle 80’S and created a crater so big that MLS had to be forced upon the USSF by FIFA as a stipulation of winning the 94 world cup bid. So lets all be thankful for the Cosmos and their contributions to US soccer, let’s remember though that when I say Cosmos I mean the original ones not these ones playing to 4k crowds the new ones haven’t done jack yet.

  • MTF

    If the Cosmos end up being the third metro area team in MLS someday (doubtful) tell me independent soccer club supporters, what will you do? You will obviously have to abandon them. Right?

  • Kevin

    I hope this bid never happens. Go to Brooklyn, Cosmos. Lets build a 12000 seat arena and go from there. SAn ANtonio has built one for almost the same amount of seats with the structure to expand if they see a need to. As for you fans of MLS teams, whats your problem? Worry about your teams, NYCFC just got embarrassed on national TV. Red Bulls youve won almost nothing in 20 years. Youŕe the NY knicks of the MLS. But yet there are more posts on Cosmos forums then on either of your teams. Not every Cosmos fan has the disillusions that you keep bringing up over and over in your tired comments.

  • Kevin

    And Dan German, aren’t guy the guy who once said you were Cosmos fan. I guess youŕe just following the crowd right. How did your boys do yesterday against the Galaxy. As for the new Cosmos doing jack, what does that mean? They are in the NASL, whether you can handle that or not isnt my problem. The players on the field have done basically what they have been asked to do. They won the 2013 championship game, made the playoffs in 2014 and lost to the eventual champions. And now are and have been in the drivers seat almost all of this 2015 season. They beat the Red Bulls and NYCFC (of course you all have excuses of y they beat them because none of you can take it like men and just realize you lost) lost to a Philly Union team on a late game call in the box. Yes they lost to RB this year and deserved to, but as a Cosmos fan hoping for things to continue to improve I guess they just haven’t met your expectations. But youre a Cosmos fan too right?

    • Luis

      The most logical comment of all. I just love how all these mls retards (slowleftarm and larrysasimpleton) ALWAYS comment on Cosmos pages lol, isn’t funny how this “minor league” team gets the most comments on this website? If we were so minor league, why are you fuc**rs here every.single.time.

    • DanGerman

      They’re a club that has existed for around 2 years. What exactly have they done that would merit them world class as some will have you believe? They are poorly attended and as this very blog had stated many times the local media cares very little about them. Its a very real problem for them and a lot of people are just glossing over it and that infuriates me because if you can’t see the Cosmos are bleeding money and are in a tenuous situation right now, you’re freaking blind. Why else go for this hail mary media push for the stadium.

      • OpenCupFan

        Ladies and gentlemen, this is the bot that claims to be a Cosmos fan. With friends like this……..

      • typical NYCFC fan

        Hey, guys – how many innings are in a soccer game?

        How many touchdowns does Villa have?

        I love NY!

        I moved here 6 months ago!

  • OpenCupFan

    IMHO, the Cosmos should throw mls a bone and let Cosmos B play in mls. Stop, I already know what you’re going to say, Cosmos B is too good for mls, Cosmos B would go undefeated in mls, and most importantly – Cosmos B is for player development and everyone knows you can’t develop players in mls, it’s only for seniors! Hm, on second thought maybe there is no point to joining mls unless you’re an old guy trying cash a check.
    .
    Breaking news – mls just signed Methusaleh!
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    Would be kind of cool to see Steve Nash and Cosmos B go undefeated in mls though.
    #bushleaguemls

    • DanGerman

      And this boys and girls is why drugs are bad.

      • OpenCupFan

        Drugs? Did I say I couldn’t figure how to buy tickets to a sports event online or something? That’s more likely to be drugs buddy.

  • REAL OpenCupFans know nasl teams are bad

    REAL OpenCupFans know nasl teams lost 7 straight times to the MLS reserve teams league. Cosmos can win in that league all they want, it don’t mean sh-t. Their best players are old MLS rejects and they’re not even on TV, they will fold eventually, their 3000 fans in long island should give it up.

  • US Soccer

    I agree the LI is not a good choice for the Cosmos. Brooklyn would be a much better fit and would help increase their fan base. I think a merger between NASL and MLS should be considered again. Perhaps a setup like Serie A and B in Italy, where all teams have a chance to play in the first division based on performance. I believe we should encourage NASL growth to help promote the sport in the US. The Cosmos name in nostalgic and love them or hate them, have the ability to help the sport grow here.

    • OpenCupFan

      Interesting, so where were you the previous year when NASL had the better record?
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      Or how about the RailHawks beating the Galaxy 2 years in a row? Obviously that must mean Carolina is better than all the McWendys in mls since it beat the McWendys champion. Go RailHawks!
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      U.S. Open Cup is the shizzzzzzzzz!
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      mls is just bush league

    • OpenCupFan

      Sorry US Soccer, meant for the comments above yours.

      • slowleftarm

        Hanging your hat on a win against an MLS second string side is truly bushleague. Nothing wrong with supporting a minor league or a minor league team but you don’t see people who go to SI Yankee games pretending that team is better than a major league team. Although you are a tedious troll, I feel bad for you. Battling so hard against reality every day must be really exhausting.

        • OpenCupFan

          Making excuses for losing games is bush league. You and your NJRB comments are bush league and mls is bush league for giving Montreal a month to prepare for CCL championship – bush bush bush league.

  • OpenCupFan

    mls should pay Cosmos B to join it. mls is a well regarded and established reserve league, just ask RedBull, ManCity, and Chivas.
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    Wait, forget you read that, mls doesn’t develop players so Cosmos shouldn’t put their reserve team in #bushleaguemls.

    • WilliamsburgHipster

      You are seriously ill. NYCFC has all the money and power. Your foreign owners are losers like you. You get 3,000 a game at a college turf field. You are an embarrassment to the Cosmos brand that once was. You play on Long Island which means you are from Long Island which means you are the biggest loser ever. I can’t wait until NASL folds, such a loser league. Then I will enjoy seeing you jumping off some loser bridge on Long Island to end it.

      • OpenCupFan

        Charcuterie much?

      • Joe

        NYCFC might have the most money in the league but they are just like Man city. If they can’t win they just start spending more money and that won’t work in MLS plus adding players close to 40 won’t help either.

  • Jukebox Pony

    I can tell that stadium is going to do more than host the Cosmos. I see the USMNT playing games at the 25,000 seat stadium (competing against the NYRB stadium). They could do what the Seattle Sounders did and close off part of the stadium to fit the fan support size. Who knows. Since the Cosmos was originally a New Jersey team, it would be nice seeing them return there and let the Brooklyn Italians and the New York Athletic club in the NPSL have the glory in New York City since the NASL is in talks with a promotion and relegation merger with the NPSL in another five years.

    • Anonymous

      You will never ever see a USMNT match there.

      USSF = MLS
      MLS = SUM
      SUM = USSF

      They’re not gonna feed anybody outside of their cartel

  • Instead of bashing NASL and the model shouldn’t we be appreciating the different structure and attempt to further the game in the USA? To me a league challenging MLS is only a good thing. See NFL/AFL, NBA/ABA, NHL/WHA. What if NASL pulls off this Pro/Rel idea with the NPSL in 10 years, would that be such a bad thing?

    • OpenCupFan

      Of course, it would be great. Americans learn that in high school – competition begets the best products/results.
      .
      Unfortunately, when discussing soccer, you can’t forget that mls (and mls bots hyping mls blindly) don’t want competition. It wants to maintain its monopolistic control for its own benefit.
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      This is clear as day and demonstrated repeatedly by the actions of the mls – at the most basic just look at how mls steals solidarity payments from kids academies. If it was interest in developing soccer instead of just its own brand it wouldn’t stand in the way of small academies receiving financial benefits for developing young American players nationwide.
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      #bushleaguemls

      • slowleftarm

        Nah fans of MLS teams just find it tedious that Hempstead fanboys pretend their team/league is as good as MLS despite all evidence to the contrary.

        • OpenCupFan

          Typical non responsive comment from an mls bot. Go look at your elementary school books about monopoly versus free market.

  • REAL OpenCupFans know nasl teams are bad

    if you are interested in developing soccer in the country then support the clubs which are developing the best young new and future talent – MLS and their academies.

    The nasl has basically developed no new players of any national team impact (which MLS has done by the dozen) – if they started to do that maybe some would give them a little more respect at their minor league level.

  • US Soccer

    No worries Open! I just want to see one controlling interest in American soccer. Instead we have had 2 professional leagues disputing about who is better. If we unify the leagues somehow, then we can truly see which clubs are best. They could prove it on the field.

    • slowleftarm

      There’s no real dispute about which league is better. That dispute exists only in the minds of Hempstead Cosmos fans who can’t accept that the “global brand” known even by some guy in Sweden is minor league.

  • US Soccer

    NASL has been around a few years now and it’s not going away anytime soon. Rather than bash the league why not support it? In my opinion, the more professional clubs that are available for young American players to get looked at the better! The more opportunities our kids get to play professional soccer in America the more it will grow and progress on the world stage and win a World Cup. Our time will come, but in fighting and arguing over who’s bush league or not is a waste of time. I am not from Long Island and my team is the NY Red Bulls. I just want to see our soccer grow and to see our players get more opportunities and pay as with other sports in the US. We can do it, but need to support all US Soccer, not just MLS.

  • REAL OpenCupFans know nasl teams are bad

    agree that we should generally support soccer at all levels, and we all want it to grow in the country, but the issue is when dumb cosmos fans (or their execs) try to say they are taking over top spot in the country over MLS, it does not help the top players and their development which mostly all takes place in MLS and their academies – so it is important to support the MLS.

    what have the current cosmos ever done to improve US Soccer, develop any national team members, build an academy and train youth?…

  • Anonymous

    Wow
    Cosmos can generate a lot of hate and love.
    I’m a believer in having 3 teams in the new York area and other 3 in the LA region.
    If red bull rebrand, they might be as strong or popular as nyc.
    Red bull Will only reach their potential by rebranding,simple as that.
    As for nyc,they will get their stadium sooner than later and cosmos needs to get serious.

  • US Soccer

    Well good morning! Glad to see we agree on something. Anyway, in all fairness to the Cosmos and their fellow NASL clubs, they are still in the “growing” stage for lack of a better word. They haven’t been around long enough to significantly contribute to the national team. But now that you brought that up, maybe they would be if Klinsmann would take on more kids that came up in US academies and not prefer to take those who came up through European academies. As far as rebranding the Red Bulls, I don’t see how at this point it would actually help them. They have, in my opinion, solidified their place in MLS. What they need is to win the MLS cup.

    • US Soccer

      Hopefully the Cosmos will realize that Long Island is a horrible choice to build a stadium. Go to Brooklyn, at least you will get people to go to games. The problem with Long Island is that there is no good way to get there, and the traffic is horrible. If they go to Brooklyn or any other place in the city itself you will get fans from the city and many from NJ to take the train, ferry or even drive in.

      • DanGerman

        Agreed in my earlier comment I mentioned that is simply isn’t going to happen and they need to move away from LI. The old Newark Bears stadium is available to play in right now and I would certainly consider that place as well as playing in MCU in Coney Island.

        • US Soccer

          Either would be good choices. They have played at MCU and drew better crowds than Hofstra. I think Cooney Island would be awesome for them and probably be good for the area as well. Too bad you’re not in charge Dan.

          • DanGerman

            Woah don’t let OpenCupFAN hear that. You’ll be called a troll for suggesting that. LOL

  • DanGerman

    Seriously though they NEED to get out of Hofstra and hopefully the Brooklyn play-off game is a step in that direction.

    • US Soccer

      I read in a related story that the old Shea Stadium footprint is available and for legal reasons only a stadium can be built there. I can tell you from experience, I went to a Cosmos match last year in October. It took every bit of 2 hours to get there from Jersey. Same story coming home. That was October. I couldn’t even imagine trying to get there this time of year with all the shore traffic. Meanwhile, I can drive to Yankee stadium in less than an hour most times. Brooklyn, 45 minutes to an hour. Long Island sucks for ANY sport and their team. No one wants to sit in traffic hell every time to go to a game. Harrison is only 40 minutes. At least the Red Bulls were smart enough to avoid Long Island.

      • DanGerman

        That land is owned by the Mets and they threw NYCFC’s name out as a possible team for that land but with the catch that they’d have to give them the money needed to build low income housing. I personally don’t trust Sterling and would be wary of dealing with him.

  • US Soccer

    Well again it is one of MANY options, any of which are better than LI. As far as Open is concerned, he is just passionate about the Cosmos. I get it and support them. I want to see the team succeed and I think they deserve to play in nice stadium. I believe they have a good chance at reviving old fans and creating many new ones if they get out of Long Island and put themselves in the city or across the Hudson.

    • DanGerman

      I think the team could succeed but they need to start to focus on the NYC are market not on friendlies in Cuba or El Salvador. Start by moving to a new stadium then work to start getting bigger crowds. Once you start to regularly sell out the new venue THEN push for the stadium. Until then all this talk of being a world class club must cease because I think it hurts more then helps the Cosmos cause.

  • US Soccer

    I think your approach makes sense. It seems though that the ownership is determined to build their own stadium. As I said in prior posts, the NASL isn’t going away anytime soon. But if they did, the one team that has the best chance at surviving another collapse of the NASL would be the Cosmos. So step one is to get into a better market than Long Island. If by chance something were to happen to the league, they more than anyone else would probably be able to get into MLS if they had to. I don’t think it would come to that, and as I’ve said before, some sort of unification of the leagues would be beneficial and perhaps even help the NASL teams grow. Again Serie A and B like the Italians have would be a good model. The best teams would stay in the A division based on performance and every team would have a chance to play at the highest level. Then all the talk of who is truly the best teams would be settled each year on the field instead of blogs! It would be ONE PROFESSIONAL AMERICAN LEAGUE. Wow I really got off topic! Sorry:)

    • DanGerman

      It’s a nice idea but it wont happen, why? Money. How would you like it if you spent 100 mil to buy a team then spend several more millions building the stadiums, hiring coaches and staff and signing big name players then having that team regulated and taken over by a franchise that plays in a H.S field and spent a fraction of what you did to get there because they got promoted? Pro\Reg only helps the lower divisions in this country not the top division teams.

      • slowleftarm

        I don’t buy this argument – teams in foreign leagues can relegated but they still spend money on players and stadiums. There seems to be this idea that once you get relegated it’s over. Teams can, and often do, bounce right back, sometimes at the first attempt. I don’t think we are ready yet for pro/rel because I don’t think we have enough teams yet – look at NASL, supposedly our second division. It’s got 11 teams, and one is league owned and will fold when MLS comes to Atlanta.

        40 teams in 2 20 team division seems doable eventually though, maybe in the next 15-20 years.

        • DanGerman

          But those are teams in foreign leagues dealing with a system that’s been in place for over a 100 years they already have the infrastructure in place to deal with it. Aside from the MLS teams what other teams have their own stadiums? Maybe 3 or 4 less then that if you have stadium limits like in europe(Usually 20K minimum for a top division team). Maybe WAYYY down the road but not anytime soon.

          • OpenCupFan

            Don’t need mls for pro/rel, they can keep their closed league.

            • slowleftarm

              If you want pro/rel between a bunch of minor leagues, that’s fine. But it’s pretty pointless if you can’t ultimately make it to the top flight.

          • slowleftarm

            First of all, I agree now is not the time. But do you think all the teams in England have 20k stadiums? Bournemouth is in the Prem and they only have 12k or so capacity. I also don’t see why having all teams in their own stadium should be required for pro/rel.

            • DanGerman

              Because teams should show some financial wherewithal.

  • REAL OpenCupFans know nasl teams are bad

    Dan is right on the money here, pro/rel just helps the lower teams potentially move up, it would suck money out of the system and take it away from player salaries and youth development investments the MLS clubs are making to build soccer in the US for the future. The system bankrupts teams in Europe.

    And then if the long island cosmos got promoted we would have a college turf lacrosse stadium in the league that 4000 people might show up to for games – no one wants that!

    • OpenCupFan

      There is ZERO evidence to support anything you say.
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      All evidence points to the opposite conclusions.
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      Another mls bot suffering an analytical short circuit.
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      Support your local independent soccer clubs!
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      #greentideworldwide
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      FYI – mls doesn’t develop players, it only steals money from US academies that are developing players for this country.
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      And in conclusion – #bushleaguemls
      #bushleaguemlsbots
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      mls snobs, like Euro snobs, but without a clue

      • DanGerman

        Care to provide something to the discussion other then clueless fanboy comments?

        • slowleftarm

          Nah all open cup clown ever says is “mls bot” and “McWendys.” He actually goes through life this way too. It isn’t just on this site. Someone will say “hi how are you” and he’ll respond “don’t talk to me Mlsbot! You’re just trying to convince me to come to your McWendys! They steal money from kids soccer!”

  • REAL OpenCupFans know nasl teams are bad

    MLS academies have developed a number of youth national team members and most full national team members play or have played in MLS. Look at Miazga for the Red Bulls, Bradley, Altidore and Ream all played there also.

    don’t think the nasl can make any claims on developing anyone who was any good, although that is not surprising since they lost 7 straight to USL teams – the facts man, the facts.

  • US Soccer

    Wow this conversation could go on forever! Let’s look at things from this perspective. The rest of the world recognize MLS as the first division. FIFA recognizes it as the first division. The NASL will never get a chance for EQUAL recognition unless the 2 leagues compromise in someway and make steps toward unification. FIFA will not intervene in what they will consider a domestic matter. Now MLS clubs and NASL clubs are accepting each others players on loan agreements and competing with each other in tournaments which means there is a decent amount of communication occurring between the leagues. Now as far as these tournaments where NASL teams have come out on top, good on them! But many of these matchups have been without key MLS starters as others have pointed out. That means that these MLS teams aren’t too concerned whether they win or loose against teams that are considered second division or lower in competitions that aren’t recognized as being very substantial. Money is a big concern for unification, but the longer they wait, the more it will cost. It’s inevitable and necessary. Why start a professional team if it doesn’t have the potential to ever be recognized as the best in the country it plays in?