Cosmos Update Proposed Belmont Stadium Plan

IMAGE, COSMOSSTADIUM.COM

by JAKE NUTTING

The New York Cosmos have reaffirmed their desire to build a first rate soccer specific stadium, as well as a retail and entertainment complex, at Belmont Park.

The club updated its website cosmosstadium.com to include new renderings and language after the Empire State Development Corporation asked all interested bidders to submit revised proposals for the tract of land adjacent to the Belmont Racetrack. ESD made the request in November after taking the smaller of the two parcels of land, known as parcel A, off the table.

Shortly after ESD informed the bidders they would need to readjust their plans, Cosmos COO Erik Stover told EOS that the hope was that they could figure out a way to fit everything into parcel B. Today’s updates show that the club has stuck to the ambitious scope of its plan by doing just that

Despite losing the valuable space, the Cosmos are not backing down from their proposed 25,000 seat stadium. They also now hope to incorporate the “restaurant row” that was originally meant for parcel A into their plans for parcel B. Those nine restaurants will now be shifted to the team’s mixed-use plans for parcel B, which include a 175-room hotel and over 300,000 square feet of retail.

Notably, the new images on the team’s stadium website still show a pedestrian bridge connecting parcel B and the proposed stadium to the north side of Belmont where the racetrack sits. Stover called this walkway integral to the project back in November.

Bidders were required to submit their final revised plans this week, though the timetable for when they should expect to hear back from ESP is still unknown. Belmont remains the first choice for the Cosmos, but the club has begun to seriously consider back up plans after nearly three years of waiting around for answers from the decision makers.

  • Cosmo

    Do cosmos have a real chance winning the land? Why do they love nasl?
    I don’t think they will win, why would they, its New York dirty politics.
    If garber has in MLS and recruited old school nasl teams like timbers, sounders, whitecaps, earthquakes, impact, and the Minnesota market, why wouldn’t he want the cosmos.
    As a matter of fact, cosmos want big names and think big supposedly, but MLS is about to get better and actually become a whole different league with the extra money MLS is giving the teams in 2016 and 2017 and that’s only the starting point.
    By 2020 MLS will have a higher salary cap and more money rules, isn’t this what cosmos want.
    Let’s be realistic cosmos, you’re the last team from the old school nasl that MLS needs, don’t play hardball.
    Nasl will always be second to MLS and big names like Cr7 and messi want MLS, not nasl.
    These are the only east cities that actually have a chance before MLS stops at 30 or 32. Basically there is only 4 spots left in each conference until MLS hits 32.
    St.louis, Charlotte, Detroit, and ?

  • jimbo

    “Cr7 and messi want MLS” Huh????

    • Arsenal 10023

      The current economics surrounding the NASL do not support the building of world class soccer specific stadiums….it would be like my local minor league baseball team building a stadium to rival Yankee stadium. What for? The Cosmos are a minor league team playing in a minor league (NASL)and drawing minor league crowds.

    • Cosmo

      I’m saying cosmos will not sign old fancy dps like messi or cr7, MLS is the league for that.
      Relax

    • Ali C is my man

      Of course they do. What other league pays $5-10M annual contracts for 4-5 years to 33 year-olds? Ronaldo will get $20M playing for LAFC. Messi maybe more at Orlando. Rooney or Zlatan in New York.

  • Larry’s A Simpleton

    Cosmos must be new around here.

  • MTF

    Cosmo, MLS will not have three teams in New York for the foreseeable future…like the next 20+ years. Garber has even said as much. Cosmos had their chance and couldn’t come to an agreement with MLS. They don’t want to play in the MLS’ business model. Garber went ahead with Man City and the Yankees and now it’s case closed. The Cosmos made their bed, now they’ve got to lie in it. You can’t even say the Cosmos make the NASL…they have the marquee name but not the attendance to match.

  • Troy

    This is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

    • Cosmo

      We are witnessing Rapids, fire, fc Dallas, cosmos, red bull, and I would also say crew.
      Crew had a pack house for MLS cup which means half the stadium were casual fans.
      Who will crash first?

      • Troy

        WTF are you talking about. I’m talking about the Cosmos stadium boondoggle – the subject of the article and what everyone else is discussing. You crazy.

  • OpenCupFan

    It’s amazing how only #bushleaguemls fans talk about Cosmos leaving NASL.

    • Jordy

      Might wanna dust up on your Cosmos history before making that claim.

  • jason

    agree with Arsenal, cosmos have only drawn 4K avg. to games, and that is floated higher by bobble head days with Pele and Beckenbauer, no need for a major league 20K+ stadium.

  • HydraHamster

    I agree and disagree with most comments. I feel the Cosmos are not ready yet for a 25,000 seat stadium. I feel a 18,000 seat stadium would better suit them until they have the fan support to grow that big. After that, I disagree that the Cosmos are in trouble being in the NASL. The NASL is still growing nicely, however, I feel they need a more experienced leader in the soccer system they wish to use.

    The same thing MLS fans are saying about the NASL is the same thing people said about MLS during their early years and look at them now.

    • MTF

      The NASL is growing in the number of teams department. However, with no real TV contract there is a big limit to their revenue growth. You can only make so much in ticket sales and merchandise. After awhile ownership groups will grow tired of throwing money at their teams. Americans have proven time and again that they will not support what they consider to be a minor league product unless there’s no big league alternative. MLS is the longer established league and their TV contract is miniscule. The Cosmos only survive so long as there’s a league for them to play in. I just think for them building anything bigger than 12,000 will be a huge mistake. They’re averaging about 3,700 at Shuart…there aren’t 13,000+ fans sitting at home waiting for them to play in a real stadium.

      • HydraHamster

        They are still young. Just like what MLS fans keep saying year after year about MLS. On another side, I am also saying that it is to soon for the NASL to ever challenge MLS since they are so new.

        The Cosmos getting a 25,000 seat stadium can be a hit or miss. NYCFC have soccer fans just because who they are owned by and what division they are in. They have no identity because their identity is a copy of a foreign league. It looks bad that soccer fans would support anything as long as it has a D1 title to them. When MLS name a new expansion team, fans treat it like the circus coming into town. That I agree with you. That is a big reason why the NASL want to be a first division league because they have a much higher chance of fans loving them. The Cosmos are in a lower division league that is acting to soon on challenging MLS when they have not build a proper identity and worked through it’s growth pains. Naming themselves after a former soccer league was a horrible idea because they named themselves after a failed product from the past. Bill Peterson seem like the right fit at first for the NASL, but he plans seemed all talk and less taking action.

        With that said, I still have hopes that that league will survive because that would be bad for soccer if they don’t. The Cosmos don’t have the shinny gold D1 badge, but it’s only a 50/50 chance more fans would go see them play other minor league teams.

    • DanGerman

      The Cosmos need to build a 25K stadium to make the deal attractive to the state, its a tough sell as it is but saying you’re building a smaller stadium would look bad. If the stadium bid doesn’t work out then I think its high time they look at ANY situation that presents itself to build a stadium. I still think taking over the old Newark Bears stadium and building a nice 15 to 18K stadium would be great, or see what the Brooklyn borough president has for sites for a new place. They need a viable plan B because relying on Albany is a mistake.

      • MTF

        I think there is zero chance that the Cosmos win the Belmont bid. I can see the state saying, “Wait, you don’t play in MLS against the LA Galaxy and the Red Bulls? You average 4,000 people, fewer than the Long Island Ducks?” The state is going to be thinking: what do we do with this white elephant when the Cosmos fold? What’s NYCFC got going? Brooklyn to me is the best option, near MCU Park. Newark? A stone’s throw from Red Bull Arena? Ain’t happening.

        • DanGerman

          Currently the Newark Bears stadium IS a white elephant for the city and to have someone come and take it over from them would be desirable. Honestly you’d probably get more fans in a Newark location then Hempstead and you’d control the venue so other sports events would generate money for the Cosmos. With regards to NYCFC in NYC you need to keep everything close to the vest so you’re not going to hear anything until its absolutely a done deal.

          • ty

            I think NYCFC should opt for Jersey because. CFG is not going to get a stadium. It’s just not what they’re designed to do. They don’t negotiate land deals. The stadiums of Man City, Man city council owns the MFC stadium and Melbourne FC is multipurpose previously used stadium. It’s never been done. I think NYCFC will be in Yankee stadium for life.

            • DanGerman

              The Yankees are minority owners and they most certainly do know how to maneuver a stadium deal. So I’m not overly concerned about it yet.

      • ty

        The state is looking for diverisfied revenue for other sporting events also USMNT matches,Tennis…ect. I feel confident because stover did deliver the RB stadium. I think the state is looking for “infrastructure” a “Landmark” not ,”Can you get into the MLS?” NY state is not Sacramento? They could care less about Leagues. They’re thinking “Venue”. It may well be the stadium a casino or a combination of both.

        • DanGerman

          The state is looking to use the Elmont site to generate revenue for them, the Cosmos bid is the only one that is attached to a sports entity. The state will choose whatever bid they feel will generate the most money for them and unfortunately with the reduced land the Cosmos are at a disadvantage in my opinion against the other bids. I hope I’m wrong but I have my doubts.

  • MTF

    Opting out of MLS was the death knell for the Cosmos…before they ever played a game. Had they been the second NY team they would’ve had a real shot at Belmont. Garbed doesn’t want a third team in NY…he will have enough trouble getting NYC their own venue. I think it’s very telling that Raul now seems to be backing out of staying with the organization.

  • OpenCupFan

    Nobody cares what Garbertrom and #bushleaguemls wants. Soon as NASL hits it target mls/USSF collusion will be in court.

    • Larry’s A Simpleton

      poor jsprech. you’re too stupid to realize the nasl is dying a slow death thanks to the f.cosmos. hey onionsack, the f.comsos killed the nasl again

      maybe you and the burro boys could pass the hat around to raise bail money for obrien.

      #obriensgoingtojail

    • Ali C is my man

      Living in a dreamland

  • jason

    I’d give the nasl/cosmos 2 more seasons maybe – they are only drawing 5k maybe, no tv, no media coverage, no fans – and averages will only go down with any decent teams leaving for MLS like Minnesota, San Antonio, maybe Indy next?…

    The nasl on field product is poor, and MLS is only making big improvements every year with more spending on players and home grown development.